That one was pretty popular here on SD so I'm sure others around here have the same machine. Lenovo followed it up with the first "LOQ" desktop, which is identical to the first gen save for the letters "LOQ" on the front and a 13th instead of 12th gen processor. https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/de...en102q0001
This thing is essentially the 3rd gen - it looks identical to mine, save for the cosmetic changes they made to the plastic front panel. The i/o is exactly the same, the dimensions are the same, etc. If you showed me pictures of the rear of this thing and the rear of the 1st gen, I couldn't tell them apart.
So, positives - it's affordable. Lenovo usually makes okay stuff for a big manufacturer. The GPUs are typically pretty good. My Lenovo RTX 3060 is just fine - basically the same as any 3rd party board partner's base level card. Obviously the actual CPU and GPU chips are made by their respective companies. It's also a very small case, nearly ITX in size. Lenovo has clearly used the same chassis for all three "generations" of this machine, possibly even before that.
Negatives - Dirt cheap motherboard and locked down bios. There's very little you can do to change anything in the bios. No option to enable memory profiles, set timings, or do basically anything with ram. No flexibility in the CPU here either - it's just two presets, one of which is "performance" and the other is "efficient" or something like that. It's been a minute. The bios is what it is and likely won't see many (if any) updates. Mine hasn't. The motherboard is also a weird proprietary shape (like Dell does), and the front IO is built right into it (again, like Dell). The power supply is proprietary as well, although it is the standard ATX size. It's 12 volts only, so the board does all the stepping down. You can replace the power supply with a standard ATX one, but you'll need an adapter to match up with the motherboard. There are a few youtube videos with guys upgrading the PSUs in these things with various (but workable) results.
This isn't a bad deal and I'd recommend getting a pair of ram sticks (2x16GB) to upgrade the thing to 32gb. The motherboard only has two slots so you'll end up with the factor one as a spare. Besides throwing in a 2.5 SSD or two for more storage, it should be good to go.
As always, I recommend downloading a copy of Windows 11 from Microsoft and doing a clean install so you don't have to deal with all of Lenovo's bloatware. I recommend this for basically every prebuilt system from this big manufacturers (Dell, HP, etc), so it's not just a Lenovo thing.
Those are from motherboard, using integrated graphics. It has all the display out from the RTX 4060. Don't confuse desktop with a laptop.
No nonsense but you're trying hard to find a conspiracy theory. The rear stock photo simply doesn't show the Graphics card. Go to psref.lenovo.com and search by the part number and you'll get all the details.
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If you buy through Lenovo, you should be able to get this close to $700 with $20 discount for new customers and CB sites. Someone also mentioned they have a 5% discount for students/educators if you qualify for that.
I don't see a graphics card output in that photo either. What kind of nonsense is this?
No nonsense but you're trying hard to find a conspiracy theory. The rear stock photo simply doesn't show the Graphics card. Go to psref.lenovo.com and search by the part number and you'll get all the details.
If you buy through Lenovo, you should be able to get this down to or below $700 with $50 discount for new customers and CB sites. Someone also mentioned they have a 5% discount for students/educators if you qualify for that.
Where is the $50 off deal? I see their email subscription can give $50 off on purchase over $1000 but it would only be $20 off for this deal.
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That one was pretty popular here on SD so I'm sure others around here have the same machine. Lenovo followed it up with the first "LOQ" desktop, which is identical to the first gen save for the letters "LOQ" on the front and a 13th instead of 12th gen processor.
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/de...en102q0001
This thing is essentially the 3rd gen - it looks identical to mine, save for the cosmetic changes they made to the plastic front panel. The i/o is exactly the same, the dimensions are the same, etc. If you showed me pictures of the rear of this thing and the rear of the 1st gen, I couldn't tell them apart.
So, positives - it's affordable. Lenovo usually makes okay stuff for a big manufacturer. The GPUs are typically pretty good. My Lenovo RTX 3060 is just fine - basically the same as any 3rd party board partner's base level card. Obviously the actual CPU and GPU chips are made by their respective companies. It's also a very small case, nearly ITX in size. Lenovo has clearly used the same chassis for all three "generations" of this machine, possibly even before that.
Negatives - Dirt cheap motherboard and locked down bios. There's very little you can do to change anything in the bios. No option to enable memory profiles, set timings, or do basically anything with ram. No flexibility in the CPU here either - it's just two presets, one of which is "performance" and the other is "efficient" or something like that. It's been a minute. The bios is what it is and likely won't see many (if any) updates. Mine hasn't. The motherboard is also a weird proprietary shape (like Dell does), and the front IO is built right into it (again, like Dell). The power supply is proprietary as well, although it is the standard ATX size. It's 12 volts only, so the board does all the stepping down. You can replace the power supply with a standard ATX one, but you'll need an adapter to match up with the motherboard. There are a few youtube videos with guys upgrading the PSUs in these things with various (but workable) results.
This isn't a bad deal and I'd recommend getting a pair of ram sticks (2x16GB) to upgrade the thing to 32gb. The motherboard only has two slots so you'll end up with the factor one as a spare. Besides throwing in a 2.5 SSD or two for more storage, it should be good to go.
As always, I recommend downloading a copy of Windows 11 from Microsoft and doing a clean install so you don't have to deal with all of Lenovo's bloatware. I recommend this for basically every prebuilt system from this big manufacturers (Dell, HP, etc), so it's not just a Lenovo thing.
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If you buy through Lenovo, you should be able to get this close to $700 with $20 discount for new customers and CB sites. Someone also mentioned they have a 5% discount for students/educators if you qualify for that.
Edit- $20 not $50
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Also saw there are two m.2 slots - (one for WLAN, one for SSD) - Can the WLAN be used as another SSD storage?
If you buy through Lenovo, you should be able to get this down to or below $700 with $50 discount for new customers and CB sites. Someone also mentioned they have a 5% discount for students/educators if you qualify for that.
There is no integrated graphics since it is an F Intel CPU.
Also saw there are two m.2 slots - (one for WLAN, one for SSD) - Can the WLAN be used as another SSD storage?
BUT: For anyone wondering 1 x HDMI 2.1a 3 x DisplayPort 1.4a